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Chick Fil A: When the Bullied become the Bully and the Futility of Legislating Against Progressiveness

Posted in News, Political, Uncategorized with tags , , , , on 2012/08/04 by youngwonder

As Im sure most of you know, Chick-Fil-A has recently come under a lot of scrutiny for a couple of comments that it’s CEO Dan Cathy made on Christian talk show host’s Ken Coleman’s syndicated radio show, The Ken Coleman Show, and later in an interview with Christian magazine “Biblical Recorder”. This is what he said on Ken Coleman’s show…

I think we are inviting God’s judgment on our nation when we shake our fist at Him and say, ‘We know better than you as to what constitutes a marriage’. I pray God’s mercy on our generation that has such a prideful, arrogant attitude to think that we have the audacity to define what marriage is about

This is what he said to the Biblical Recorder

We are very much supportive of the family — the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that. … We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that,” Cathy emphasized. “We intend to stay the course,” he said. “We know that it might not be popular with everyone, but thank the Lord, we live in a country where we can share our values and operate on biblical principles.

Little did Cathy know that apparently this is NOT a country where you can share your values and operate on biblical principles, at least not without people completely losing their shit over it.

From the quotes it sounds like Cathy knew that his comments -“We know that it might not be popular with everyone” – would not go over well with the non-christian, pro-same sex marriage, progressive liberal crowd. He probably knew this because his company has faced active opposition from the LGBT community for a couple of years now. This most recent flap is simply the public revelation of a PR war that has been going on for a couple of years now.

Back in January of 2011 there were media reports that CFA co-sponsered a marriage conference with the Pennsylvania Family Institute. This rubbed champions of the LGBT cause the wrong way because back in 2008 the PFI had filed an amicus brief during Perry v. Brown, the trial that eventually struck down Proposition 8 in California, in support of Proposition 8 (Proposition 8 was a ballot proposition that passed in California back in 2008 that essentially banned same-sex marriage in the state ). Watch groups like Equality Matters spend much of their time looking for connections between groups that that run counter to their causes and corporations and I am sure they were happy as pie to find one between the PFI and a restaraunt chain that doesnt even operate on Sundays in reverence to their religion (hint hint Christians tend to oppose same sex marriage).  The whole flap prompted CFA to post this on their facebook page

To our Facebook community: First and foremost, thanks for your patience as we made sure we gathered the facts in regards to recent postings. We have determined that one of our independent Restaurant Operators in Pennsylvania was asked to provide sandwiches to two Art of Marriage video seminars. As our fans, you know we do our best to serve our local communities

If the above statement is in fact true then that is just one instance in a litany of many where pro-LGBT groups, with the help of an all too willing mass media, have resorted to bullying and intentional misinformation to besmirch legitimate business in the name of progressing their cause. This was back in January of 2011, 20 months before the current brouhaha ever made its way to facebook and twitter. CFA, like any company, was sensitive to bad PR and Dan Cathy issued this statement back in 2011 (full statement can be read here)

Recently, there have been some misleading stories about Chick-fil-A in the media and on the Internet.  As a result, I feel strongly about the need to clarify some things.

In recent weeks, we have been accused of being anti-gay. We have no agenda against anyone.  At the heart and soul of our company, we are a family business that serves and values all people regardless of their beliefs or opinions.  We seek to treat everyone with honor, dignity and respect, and believe in the importance of loving your neighbor as yourself.

We also believe in the need for civility in dialogue with others who may have different beliefs.  While my family and I believe in the Biblical definition of marriage, we love and respect anyone who disagrees.

Whether some would like to admit it or not, the LGBT movement in this country has turned into a bunch of bullies looking to defame, and glitter bomb (I wish a motherfucker would…) anyone who doesnt agree with their tenets. This is especially surprising since much of anti-bullying propaganda (for lack of a better word, propaganda tends to have a negative connotation but it is not inherently negative and I am not using it in this instance in a negative way) comes from pro-LGBT sources. If this flap isnt enough evidence of this fact for you well then let me turn your attention to one Dan Savage.

Per his wikipedia page, “Daniel Keenan “Dan” Savage is an American author, media pundit, journalist and newspaper editor. Savage writes the internationally syndicated relationship and sex advice column Savage Love”. Savage first came to my attention through his Loose Lips column that the Washington City Paper, along with numerous other newspapers across the country, runs. I found his writing style to be funny and edgy and his column was definitely one of the things I would read while reading the City Paper. He then reappeared on my radar when he began making the rounds on two of my favorite shows The Daily Show and The Colbert Report.

How about we google ‘Giant Douche’ bet his picture comes up

Back in 2003 recent Presidential candidate Rick Santorum made a statement against same sex marriage by saying in essence that if the country allowed homosexuals to marry then it was only a matter of time before we started allowing people to marry animals also. The giant douche, I mean Dan Savage, took this as an impetus to get back at Santorum by creating and promoting a viral campaign, again with the help of the mass media including shows that I watch like TDS and Colbert, so that when you googled the name Santorum the first two results are a vivid description of a byproduct of anal sex. The cruel (read evil genius) part of the whole ruse is that based on the way google works, the more the name is googled the stronger those top two results become. So thanks to Dan Savage not only Rick Santorum, but his kids, and anyone else whose name just happens to be Santorum will forever have their names associated with the most disgusting thing that depraved man-child could come up with. Sounds a lot like bullying to me.

No one likes to be bullied, and it seems that those in the LGBT community have been bullied for so long that they are now resorting to that very same tactic to get their point across. The truth is being against same sex marriage doesnt make you automatically homophobic, that isnt to say that there isnt homophobia in the traditional marriage movement but believing the former does not automatically make you the latter ( I define being homophobic as hating gay people so when you see me use that word, thats the context im using it in).

I want to end this by addressing the other side of this debate. To the Christians who do spew vitriolic hatred against homosexuals that is not the people God called you to be. Jesus said that the world would know you were his followers by the love that you show, not the righteous indignation that you blindly spew. There is a way to be against the sin that you perceive homosexuals to commit and still be loving and compassionate to the people and the situations they face in this country.

Secondly, just a piece of advice, you can not expect to legislate morality in a regressive manner. What I mean by that is that advocating legislation against same sex marriage is a fruitless endeavor, because as times change and people change, our history shows that progressiveness eventually wins out at the end of the day and same-sex marriage is definitely a progressive cause. That doesnt mean that you should just roll over either. I see people in comments section and message boards all the time say something like ‘ how am I supposed to raise my kid in a society that allows xyz’. I dont have any children, but my advice would be to raise your kids the best way you can in spite of whatever society is doing. This is in fact you duty as a Christian. Proverbs says to train your child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it. If you put your faith in that word than no amount of societal moral decay will prevail against your family.

As an aside Im sure most people reading this will want to know my position on same sex marriage so Ill take this time to explain. I put this at the end of the piece because I dont believe that this has any bearing on what I wrote but I am willing to let my opinion be known if only to satisfy the curiosity of my readers. I personally believe that when Christians say that marriage is a sacred institution in America and should be protected through legislation that they have absolutely no moral ground to stand on. The divorce rate in this country is above 50%.  Celebrities that we, both Christians and secularists, idolize participate in sham marriages that we obsess over. Kim Kardashian divorced Kris Humphries for 2 and half months and her stupid show somehow became MORE popular than it was before. For that reason you can not reasonably claim that our society places value on the institution of marriage.

I was watching a video of the Republican presidential debates recently and Ron Paul made this point when asked about abortion and his response helped me formulate and articulate my opinion on this issue.

The part Im talking about begins about 43 seconds in when Congressman Paul begins to talk about the shifting morality of the country in the ’60’s. “When the morality changes it will reflect on the laws. The law is very important, we should have these laws, but the law will not correct the basic problem and that is the morality of the people.” Again you can not legislate morality in a regressive fashion. You have to deal with the moral attitude of the country before you can begin to change it.